Search Results: "Andreas Schuldei"

28 February 2006

Aigars Mahinovs: DPL platform runthrough

I think more people should just publish their thoughts about platforms of our DPL candidates so that we can have more visibility and insight (and a reason to actually read those platform statements). Thanks go to MJRay for the idea, however I will try to be a bit more biased so that this post conveys more of my opinions then just a plain summary of the platforms.
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
  • ftp-team for a year, looks good
  • dpl-team as a good idea, wants team decisions to take less responsibility on his own. Might be wise, but could be un-leaderish.
  • pushes for smooth communication, I am not sure how that will work out - smooth communication means sanding off the edges, but we all know that the best development is always on the edge.
  • pushes for code of conduct. While the idea might be quite popular it also states that bad behavior in our community is becoming so widespread that a special code is needed to compensate for that. I do not feel that we are at such a bad state now - more flamewars are raised about the code of conduct then about the conduct itself. I feel this is were simple and decisive action by the DPL should be done and not a birocratic procedure to spread the blame of failure.
  • "insider reports" - good idea, like an internal Debian News Station (see Howard 100 News)
  • encouraging wiki, forums and IRC as official channels of external communication. Several questions arise here: as a user with specific question - where must I go? to which media? to which list, channel or forum category? It must not be too complex. Also there is the question of spreading knowledgeable users and developers too thin across multiple channels of voluntary support.
  • infrastructure transparency - good, but how? even tiny bits of paperwork there can slow the whole project to a crawl.
  • mediator in flamewar situations - good, DPL should be doing that.
  • media coverage - does Debian need more media coverage? I do not think so. I do believe that we need more coverage in more professional circles (even if in circles of professional psychiatrists) to attract more developers and make them understand us better, but I do not feel that attracting huge crowds of general public would do much good for the project.
  • in my opinion team players make mediocre leaders
Five word summary: transparent, wide, smooth, mediative, consensus
Ari Pollak
  • whoa ... pictures, so sweet :)
  • humor, so much needed in our project
  • good point about half-DPL - it would be nice to have DPL delegate as much as they possibly can but be strict and easy with what is left
  • Debian Police - sounds like a good substitute for Project Scud and the Finnish Inquisition :D
  • good take on licences, however I would add to the Gnocchi licence the phrase "And you must remove any copies of this licence from your memory as soon as you have finished reading it." That will show them lawyers ...
Five word summary: humor, half-*, police, anti-legalese, illustrations
Steve McIntyre
  • got in cheap, but a long time ago
  • The CD dude!
  • not much new on internal communication, same old "will tell you even that I not doing anything"
  • same stuff about the code of conduct, see above.
  • social skill test within NM. Good idea, but not a good implementation - you will not get much social conditioning with mentoring inside teams. We need someone to get on the candidate and roast them good - test their asbestos suits. After he has made a package, schedule for time and either call the newbie or IRC with him. Grill him about his package. Must sure to slide into personal insults, religion bashing and political discourses. Watch the response. Evaluate. Post audio online :)
  • open cabalish developments - there is little to be done beyond talking to cabal and making sure all semi-private developments use public Debian infrastructure for communication - draft on wiki and develop in svn, so that everyone can see.
  • very good points about professionalism. we must be able to be proud about Debian and demand some level of standards from packages inside Debian. The idea of regular DD reexamination might be a very good fit here, see below.
  • Steve looks like a good organizer to me
  • however he might be a bit too soft on leadership or simply too diplomatically inclined in his platform statement
Five word summary: professionalism, standards, MIA, tests, communication
Anthony Towns
  • not wanting to win too much
  • speed up! - release early, release often. Sounds good for the everyday processes, but not for The Release. I still want to see Debian as The Most Stable thing ever.
  • recruiting - I would ask, recruit for what? People can not just get into the interesting parts of the project and recruiting for general run of the mill development does not sound too engaging to me. You'd better make a contest for new security team members or new ftp masters or any other position that one person or only a few persons hold now. Have clear requirements and tests and actually get those people into doing those critical jobs. After that we can think about ...
  • ... compulsory turnover. Now there is a good idea that I'd like other DPLs to consider, but only with in conjunction with the previous one. We might not need full rotation, but we could have a rotating ftp team leader post that would iterate among ftp team members. That would alleviate the "hit by a bus" problem a bit more.
  • DPL as a discussion and direction leader is quite a nice and needed idea in my opinion.
  • I do not agree with aj about compulsory kindness and the general idea of expulsion on social grounds. Currently it creates more problems then it could solve in a lifetime.
  • Congrats on declassification thing, historians will surely thank us for that.
  • nice legal disclaimer, I like those kind of things :)
Five word summary: continuity, tempo, newbies, direction, bling
Andreas Schuldei Not online, to be put here when it appears.
Jonathan (Ted) Walther
  • photo, nice touch.
  • speak your mind. sound essential to a DPL.
  • Ubuntu good. Good.
  • Make love (and code) and not Desktop. Let Ubuntu make Desktop if they want to.
  • We all are strange people, face it.
  • Kicking people out is more harm to the project then those people could ever do.
  • Kicking fun out of Debian.
  • Great points about improving NM process and worshiping James Troup - I fully agree.
  • The best idea here - recertification of all Debian Developers every X years (where X is proposed to be 3 currently). This will almost automatically solve many problems we have in Debian: NM frustration, MIA developers, standards of professionalism, reiteration of best practices, social reshuffling.
Five word summary: Here, goes, my, vote, period. Alternate summary: geek, love, tolerate, recertification, statue.
Bill Allombert
  • math Ph.D. and researcher.
  • wanted to vot for Lars, but as he stepped down saw no one else good enough, so put himself forward. brave words. I like Lars too, bet it's not like we do not have good candidates this year besides him.
  • summary on effect of voluntarism and respectful communication. Quite plain if you ask me. Got me a bit bored there. Not a good sign.
  • think globally
  • assist others
  • help Debian specific software
  • observers - sounds like that Debian Action News Team minus all the fun.
  • "I am very patient" - be patient when reading and enthusiastic while writing, otherwise people might not read patiently
Five word summary: filler, communicate, more filler, patience I hope this summary gave someone as much food for thought as it did for me. My favorite is very clear, but can you guess who is my second choice? Leave a comment and let me know what you think :)

MJ Ray: How I read the DPL 2006 platforms

Bill Allombert
  • Lars Wirzenius had denominated himself
  • fully volunteer project implications
  • some rules for better communications
  • mediate
  • consider the distribution globally
  • "assistant" projects, Debian-specific projects
  • neutral observers
Jonathan (Ted) Walther
  • unpopular
  • GIANT ROBOTS sex JET PACKS sex CITIES ON THE MOON sex SPACE COLONIES sex FLYING CARS beer
  • Most of us are disfunctional in various ways
  • if a person tries to get another person kicked out of the Debian project, and they fail, they themselves will be kicked out. wiki
  • developers who didn't go through NM to go through it within the next year. From that point on, every developer would be required to renew their membership every three years, similar to drivers licenses [MJR: not English driving licences, it's not]
  • honor James Troup
Andreas Schuldei
  • not found on this server
Anthony Towns
  • a leadership hat
  • increasing its tempo
  • DPL and others actively and visibly recruit people on an ongoing basis
  • raise topics for discussion, and help guide them through
  • Gratuitous Song Parody
  • [seems to see the arbitrary expulsion and ban procedures as good developments?]
  • [title claims to be Ari Pollak's platform :) This is a good thing, will win votes.]
Steve McIntyre
  • [officer of the trader called "Debian-UK"]
  • regular status updates
  • agree a Debian code of conduct
  • more NM training can/should happen more within teams
  • more open discussion will happen naturally
  • Professionalism [(!) why not think of the children, too?]
  • detect [MIA] more quickly and more easily
Ari Pollak
  • half-joke candidate
  • half-DPL
  • Team Ari: Debian Police
  • who needs such complicated licenses, anyway?
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
  • DPL team
  • adoption of a code of conduct
  • insider reports
  • more use of the official wiki
  • Increase transparency of infrastructure teams
  • mediator/ombudsman ... team like the tech-ctte
  • actively approach the press
The above are in the reverse of the vote page order, in case you were wondering. I've not worked out my preference yet. Let's see what happens.

1 January 2006

Joshua Kwan: My DPL ballot

(AOL!) [ 7 ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther
[ 1 ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett
[ 1 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson
[ 5 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns
[ 3 ] Choice 5: Angus Lees
[ 2 ] Choice 6: Andreas Schuldei
[ 6 ] Choice 7: None Of The Above I haven’t been doing too much Debian work lately, but I think I’ll be uploading discover1-data and abiword soon. I will have to find a big chunk of time if I hope to do any kernel or d-i work.

5 December 2005

Joerg Jaspert: New lists.debconf.org setup

So that I have something in my blog again, lets repeat what I wrote to debconf-list about the moved lists.debconf.org setup: As announced to the old debconf6-team list there is now a new layout of lists.debconf.org running. We are running mailman now with lurker as the web-archive thingie. That also got a few new lists in our setup, see below. Generally - all lists are subscriber-only, non-subscribers are moderated. debconf-announce: Important news about Debconf. This list is a MUST for everyone, organisator or participant. Postings are moderated, discussion happens at debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org Moderator and only allowed posters are currently: Gunnar Wolf, Andreas Schuldei and me. debconf-discuss: General purpose discussion list for all participants and interested people. Moderator is currently Andreas Schuldei and me, any volunteers are welcome! debconf-team: The list for the organizer team to communicate about all kinds of dirty details and grand schemes. Moderator again Andreas and me, volunteers welcome. debconf-video: The list for taping and streaming the conference. Moderator is Holger Levsen and me, ask Holger if he accepts you as an additional one. debconf-website: The list for website development. Moderator is Neil McGovern and again me, ask Neil if he wants you. :) debconf6-speaker: For the speakers, wanna-speakers and bof-initializers, to sort out and exchange relevant infos and helpfull tips. Moderator is Andreas Schuldei, Alexander Schmehl and myself. debconf6-localteam: Specially designed for local matters on the Debian Day, this mailing list brings discussions for all the people involved locally on DebConf. In the webarchives, you also see the old Debconf5 Speakers list. Of course that one is closed, but the archives are there. Similar for the other lists, I imported the archives into all of them. If you want to volunteer to moderate a list: - Its not much work, usually lists are subscribers-only. You need to go and look regularly for posts that mailman put on hold, either because the list isnt in To or CC or because some other problems it might have. You will get a daily mail if there is something waiting on you and can then select “Approve, Discard, Reject” together with “Sender will be banned/accepted forever”. - If you want to volunteer ask the existing *other* moderator, not me.

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